OTHER NEWS UPDATES

Whalf Engine Shaft
Whalf Engine Shaft is now open for access and will shortly be P-bolted. Cavers are reminded not to wash ropes in the cattle trough next to Whalf Engine Shaft (or any other trough for that matter!) We dont want to upset the land owner (or livestock!) - Dated 11th April 2000

At the weekend 8/9 April a badly corroded live 303 round was found at the foot of the newly opened Whalf Engine shaft. Crewe CPC propose using a metal detector to investigate for others. In the meantime take care.

Whalf Engine-parallel shaft now bolted. - Dated 29th May 2000

Knotlow Mine from Prof. John Gunn
There is new evidence of organic pollution in Knotlow Mine, particularly in the water that enters from the level leading from Fourways to the Knotlow Farm Engine Shaft. In consequence oxygen levels are depleted (<18%) and carbon dioxide correspondingly high (> 2%). On 3rd July a sampling trip was made, entering via the Climbing Shaft, and the change in air quality was apparent from the bottom of the second pitch, alarm levels being reached by the chain. However, up to this point there was no smell, so no-one should rely on smell alone as an indication of bad air. A faint smell was apparent at the foot of the Engine Shaft, but the coffin level leading to Fourways had a dreadful smell and organic slime, sufficient to deter any exploration.

The Environment Agency are making strenuous efforts to find the source of this pollution [probably a cattle parlour as the effluent seems to be of bovine origin] and why it seems to suddenly appear at about the same time every year. The warning signs placed by the Environment Agency are still in place and cavers are again advised not to visit Knotlow and to either avoid Hillocks or to exercise great care, particularly in the lower levels. - Dated 14th July 2000

Devonshire Cavern
Devonshire has a dangerous area of roof about 15 to 20 feet past the Miners Pillar on the way in. This is NOT the area previously taped off, which should be avoided anyway, but a new area. At the point where you need to stoop a little to walk down the passage beyond the Pillar the roof is now very bad with a block apparently becoming detached. Warning Notices are being placed. - Dated 12th July 2000

Eldon Hole Dumping
Eldon had two foul-smelling bin bags from Stoke or Stafford dumped down the shaft. These were tied at the neck but, when investigated on 8th. July were found to contain two puppies and a young dog. Crewe C.P.C. have now cleared away the foul mess and disposed of the remains, plus sundry other rabbits, etc. which had fallen down in the usual course of things. The bags had apparently been in Eldon for some time, although the first recorded report was 16th. June. If possible we would like to track down the perpetrators and need to know when the bags were first seen. If you have any information on this, please contact D.C.A. via Jenny on
dca @ thedca.org.uk - Dated 12th July 2000

Eldon Hole Dumping
It was reported to DCA on 16th. June that two bin-bags, tied at the neck and containing foul-smelling animal remains, were at the bottom of the Eldon Hole and it was first thought that they had been "dumped" from the top. The bags had apparently been in Eldon for some time, although the first report to DCA was 16th. June. When investigated the sacks were found to contain unidentifiable remains, variously described as puppies or rabbits and the body of a young dog, not bagged, was nearby. On 8th. July Members of Crewe C.P.C. shovelled the whole foul mess into a barrel, together with sundry other rabbits, etc. which had fallen down the shaft in the usual course of things, and removed the lot. The remains were then disposed of at an authorised tip. Thanks are due to the Crewe members who dealt with this thoroughly unpleasant task.

Further enquiries disclosed that some time earlier animal remains scattered around the base of the shaft had been placed in bags by caver(s) "digging" at the bottom of Eldon. It was apparently not possible to remove the bags on the day this was done but instead they were left for an unknown length of time. Other cavers, unaware of the origin of the bags, became extremely concerned and, quite correctly, reported them to DCA.

Points arising from this:

Dated 4th September 2000

HAVE YOU LOST A LOCK?
A strange-looking lock with its key was left at the Monyash "Ice cream shop" several months ago by a caver. It was to be collected by someone called Alan(?) but the label with the name attached has now disappeared and, as no-one has called to collect it, it has been handed over to DCA. If you think it's yours, please contact Jenny Potts. Either phone 01335-370629 or e-mail dca @ thedca.org.uk - Dated 4th September 2000

Oxlow / Nettle /Mankhill
Oxlow-Nettle-Maskhill will be open FROM MON, 26th. NOVEMBER onwards. Will cavers please disinfect their feet in the trough provided. - Dated 21st November 2001

Fixed Ropes Warning at Odin Mine
When the bolts in Odin Mine were checked recently a number of fixed handlines were found attached to the P-hangers. These were not installed by DCA and DCA takes no responsibility for them. Please note that DCA does NOT install permanent rope handlines or fixed ropes for SRT in caves or mines in the region. Any such ropes in place, even if they are attached to DCA-installed Eco-anchors, have not been placed by DCA and are not subject to inspection by DCA. - Dated 1st March 2002

WARNING Re P8
The natural belay (used in conjunction with an eco-anchor) on the pitch above Idiots Leap, is fractured and is likely to detach itself in the near future. Best avoided for the time being.
Dated 11th July 2002

WARNING - BAD AIR IN WATER ICICLE CLOSE CAVERN & KNOTLOW MINE
There have been reports of "bad air" in Water Icicle recently and it has been serious enough on at least one occasion to cause people to have difficulty in breathing at the foot of the shaft, with headaches, nausea, etc. and a struggle to ascend the rope. It was also noted that a flame would not stay alight at the base of the shaft, indicating high levels of CO2.

CO2 is heavier than air so, in the absence of air circulation, it will tend to settle out in the lower parts of the mine. Be aware that CO2 has no smell so there will be little or no warning of problems until you begin to feel breathless. If this happens you should exit the mine as fast as possible.

Note that there are similar and continuing problems in Knotlow where severe pollution is adding to the difficulties. The foul smell of the pollution does sometimes give a warning in Knotlow, unlike Water Icicle, but this is not to be relied on as an indicator of CO2.

DCA is looking into ways of providing better ventilation for these systems but this may not be possible so - BE WARNED!

WORK IN OXLOW CAVERNS LATER THIS MONTH
Stabilisation of the slope between the entrance pitch and pitch 2 should be taking place Fri/Sat/Sun, 27th. to 29th. September. It would be helpful if cavers could give the system a miss that weekend. Apologies for any inconvenience -
Dated 12th September 2002

GIANTS HOLE ACCESS
There are new arrangements in place for access to Giants Hole which are detailed on a notice in the car park area and money is to be put in envelopes with car no(s) on - Dated 15th November 2003.

WARNING - WINNATS HEAD CAVE
It has been reported that on Saturday 3rd January a dodgy maillon and hanger were found on the in situ rope just the other side of the sewer in Winnats Head Cave. Both have been removed and the rope left hanging from the next hanger along the traverse. (It had to be left there in order to avoid re-climbing the pitch.) However, the rope is now over a rub-point and should not be used. It is believed that someone is going to replace the hanger shortly. Please note that, although Winnats Head is listed in the Crewe C.P.C. Rigging Guide, DCA has never placed any Eco-anchors in the cave and is not responsible for any hangers, in situ ropes, etc. which may be found there. - Dated 6th January 2004.

Knotlow Pollution Records
After a longer than usual interval I have at last been able to recover and record the comments on the state of the air quality in the system that you have kindly compiled; they extend from July 2002 until January 2004. Unfortunately water had found its way into the ammo box which has made it difficult for you to write and me to read all the entries. However there are 33 legible entries which give a clear indication of the variations in air quality and the continuing need to take great care. I will be forwarding these to the relevant authorities. I will shortly be replacing the book and attempting to "waterproof" the ammo box, meanwhile thank you for your continued support. I shall include a summary of recent records with the book Dave Webb DCA Conservation Officer. - Dated 24th April 2004.

DERBYSHIRE DALES DISTRICT COUNCIL PROPOSALS TO REQUIRE A LICENCE FOR ALL GROUPS WISHING TO ABSEIL ON COUNCIL OWNED LAND.
I have been made aware of proposals by DDDC to require a Licence/Insurance and to place other restrictions on groups abseiling on Council owned land. Although this appears to refer in the first instance to High Tor, Matlock, it could also apply to other sites. I have a copy of the Council Report and the draft Licence and the consultation period ends on 25th. June - extremely short notice! DDDC approached NCA, BMC and AALA for comments in the first instance so my information has come via NCA. If you use High Tor, or any other DDDC owned site, for abseiling or any similar activity, please contact me and I will forward copies of the documents I have. DCA would like to co-ordinate responses to this and also to co-ordinate our responses with those of the Climbers who use the site(s) Jenny Potts - Dated 18th June 2004.

Knotlow Pollution Records
I have now replaced the book in the ammo box at the base of the climbing shaft of Knotlow Mine. The format of the new book is slightly different to allow one page per entry and to encourage a fuller report and contact details from those who wish to provide more information. For example it helps to know the prevailing surface weather conditions and if there is any muck spreading going on. Otherwise everything is back to normal and I would thank you in advance for your continued support. I have placed a summary in the box of the most recent entries prior to the last book becoming waterlogged. Please don't hesitate to contact me or a member of the team at access @ thedca.org.co.uk if you need, or wish to provide, further information. Many thanks again for your help. Dave Webb DCA Conservation Officer - Dated 27th June 2004.

CO2 in Meccano Passage
Report of bad air in one of the passages in the Meccano Passage connection between Whalf and Knotlow on Saturday, 17th. July. A caver went down Whalf, headed into Meccano towards Knotlow and at the point where there is a 3 ft. drop he suffered classic CO2 symptoms quite badly and got out quickly. (There is no mention in the Knotlow Log Book of this because the cavers didn't go into the Knotlow system at all.) Jenny Potts - Dated 20th July 2004.

Thefts near Water Icicle
On Sun. 22 August cavers parked at the top of the lane beyond Summerhill Farm while they were down Water Icicle had all the wheeltrims from their cars stolen. No other damage or theft took place but, be warned, people other than cavers do go up the lane, even though it's not a public right of way.

Devonshire Mine Problems
It has just been reported on 9 Sept. 2004 that large rocks have been piled against the entrance of Devonshire Mine, Matlock Bath preventing access. This is the gated lower entrance by the footpath (the only official entrance) and, as far as we know, no problems with visiting groups have been notified to DCA by the landowner. We are currently investigating who has placed these rocks, and why, and we will attempt to get access restored as soon as possible. Please avoid Devonshire Mine altogether until further notice - we will keep you informed. Please do not attempt to use any of the now blocked entrances higher up the hillside to enter the mine. Jenny Potts - Dated 9th September 2004

Devonshire Mine Problems
Update Enquiries have disclosed that the rocks blocking off the Devonshire Mine gate were placed by persons unknown without the knowledge of the landowner. The landowner has confirmed that she is satisfied with the present access arrangements and is willing for this to continue. A working party is being organised to remove the rocks from the site and, if possible, to prevent a recurrence. Please be patient and we will let you know when it's open again. Jenny Potts - Dated 9th September 2004

Suicide Cave : Winnats Pass
Movement in first boulder slope! There have been recent reports of movement in the large cracked slab directly above the crawl beneath the boulder slope just beyond the entrance chamber. This lower route is well used by novices and others since it avoids the pitch at the top of the slope. In the interests of safety this route will be temporarily blocked pending a long-term solution to the problem. Dave Webb (DCA Conservation Officer) 24th November 2006

Access to Rowter Hole and JH
The farmer at Rowter Farm, Mr. Hall, has just informed us that the fees for access for JH and Rowter Hole have been increased to £2.00. Other access arrangements remain the same. (Note that cavers are asked to stay away during lambing time: April/May.)

The lid on Rowter is in poor condition and currently only has one hinge intact, so please take care. It is DCA's intention to reconstruct the top of the shaft and replace the lid some time this year. Jenny Potts - Dated 1st March 2007

SUICIDE CAVE - DANGER
A mines inspection took place in Suicide Cave on 17th. October to check on the suitability of the cave for novice trips. Those involved had a good look at the boulder choke near the entrance and noticed that the boulders seemed to have dropped about 6 inches and there are new cracks and loose debris around the area. The access hole through the bottom of the choke is also smaller.

OPINION WAS THAT THE WHOLE AREA WAS DANGEROUS, VERY UNSTABLE AND IT SHOULD NOT BE USED.

Measures to stabilise the area are being considered but this may not happen for some time so please stay away until this has been done. Jenny Potts 30th October 2007

Rowter Hole
DCA are currently in the process of Recapping Rowter Hole in the Castleton SSSI. The old cap is being removed, and a new cap will be constructed at the top of the shaft. The mine will have to be closed until this work is complete, we anticipate that this work will take one month so we would appreciate it if caver's can stay away until its complete.

Wayne Sheldon (DCA Project Officer) 24th December 2007

Knotlow Pollution - Situation improved (at last!)
A quick analysis of records for the past twelve months, recently recovered from the base of Knotlow Climbing Shaft, show that for all intents and purposes the pollution that has plagued this popular system for decades has finally disappeared! Air quality was variously reported as "good", "no bad smells", and "no problems" on all the 23 entries in the log book. The logger at the base of "Fourways" has been taken out by the Environment Agency and the securing chain will be removed in due course. The results during the period of the test of water quality were inconclusive.

It is not possible to say precisely what has given rise to this change in the overall quality of the water flowing into the system, but two things have happened during the recent times:

1) Increased frequency of patrols throughout the catchment area by the Environment Agency.
2) A change in use of surrounding land from dairy farming to beef farming & hence reduced amounts of localised slurry run-off.

Of course the position could easily change back without warning and for that reason the warning notices will remain and the record book will continue to be in place at the foot of the shaft; I would appreciate your help in continuing to report the situation as you find it.

I would like to thank all visiting cavers for their patience and diligent record-keeping, and the Environment Agency for their valuable intervention.

Click here to download a copy of the records for the period Sept 2006 - October 2007.

Access to Long Rake Mine, Bradwell
Phone (or write) to Mr. STEVEN Hadfield, Oakhouse Farm, Smalldale, Buxton, SK17 8AE (tel. 01298-22139) at least 48 hours in advance. (Note that there are 2 Mr. Hadfields on that number and it is STEVEN you need to contact.) Please give details of intended trip, name of club and numbers involved. Avoid lambing season (10th. April to 20th. May inclusive). Roadside parking either on Batham Gate Road, and approach via Potter Barn, or, alternatively , from east end of road at Pindale and use public footpath.

Avoid obstructing gateways, leave gates as found and entrance lid secure. Mine is schedules as a RIGS.
Jenny Potts 4th Janaury 2008

WARNING: CARLESWARK CAVERN COLLAPSE
A collapse in Carleswark cavern has been reported in the Stub Scrin area of Big Dig, close to its upstream junction with John Smith's Passage. Some timbers have fallen out and poised blocks in the roof appear unsupported. The area has been inspected and must be regarded as highly unstable, and until such time as remedial work can be put in hand you are strongly advised to keep away from this part of the system.
David Webb 29th February 2008

Giants Hole Access
DCA has just been informed that the charge for Giants has been raised to £3.00. According to our informant: "There's a big sign pinned to the side of the box where you fill out your envelope and post it, which says quite clearly that it's now £3 each." DCA Access Officer will be querying this but doubt there's much we can do.
Jenny Potts 29th March 2008

Oxlow Cavern
Oxlow now has a new Y-hang pull-thro' on the climb up to Pilgrim's Way. (This replaces the former system which caused problems.) The system is not quite complete yet, it awaits the installation of two Eco-anchors at the base of the climb to allow free run for the pull-back rope and to allow a secure lock-off. It does work OK now, even though it's not quite complete, but we'll let you know when the job is finished.
Jenny Potts 29th March 2008

Recapping Rowter Hole
Many thanks to the group of cavers who have now finished the brand new lid on Rowter Pot. A mighty task done under winter conditions! So, all's open now and you can help yourselves again once lambing is finished at the end of May. Ask permission at Rowter Farm, be prepared to pay a small trespass fee and you may be asked for proof of insurence.
Jenny Potts 29th March 2008

WARNING - Bad Air in Long Rake Mine, Bradwell Moor
2 cavers on a trip in Long Rake Mine, Bradwell Moor, during the Spring Bank Holiday weekend encountered "bad air", stated to be carbon monoxide. They were so badly affected that, after they had surfaced, they had to call the emergency services to take them to hospital for emergency treatment and were kept in for 24 hours. Warning signs have been placed at the shaft top and the farmer, Mr. Hadfield, is refusing permission for access for the time being. Please ensure that club members and caving colleagues are aware of the danger and please stay away for the present. DCA will be investigating to try to identify the source of the problem. We will keep everyone informed of progress via the internet.
Jenny Potts 2nd June 2008

WARNING - CARBON MONOXIDE IN LONG RAKE MINE, BRADWELL MOOR
2 cavers on a trip in Long Rake Mine, Bradwell Moor, on Saturday, 24th. May, encountered carbon monoxide at the top of the 5th. pitch. They were very badly affected but managed to make it to the surface, where one collapsed and they had to call the emergency services to take them to hospital for emergency treatment. They had to be given oxygen and kept in until they had recovered sufficiently to be allowed home. Note that CARBON MONOXIDE poisoning was diagnosed by the hospital - the 2 cavers were very lucky to get out alive!

Warning signs have been placed at the shaft top and the farmer, Mr. Hadfield, is refusing permission for access for the time being. Please ensure that club members and caving colleagues are aware of the danger and please stay away for the present.

DCA is investigating to try to identify the source of the problem and experts are helping. We will keep everyone informed of progress via the internet.

It would be helpful to know of any trips in Long Rake in, say, the previous 2 or 3 months (or even on the same weekend) and to know whether anyone else encountered any problems. Even knowing that there was NO problem on a certain date could be useful.
Jenny Potts 7th June 2008

CO2 Problems in Nettle Pot
We have just received a report of quite bad CO2 problems in Nettle Pot in the Dratsab area below Beza and Crumble Shafts. If you do visit this area of Nettle, be wary and be ready to turn back if you find yourself being affected - shortness of breath, headache, puffing and panting and general feeling grotty are the standard symptoms.
Jenny Potts 10th December 2008

Youds Level Pollution
We have just received a report of very serious pollution in Youd's Level. Despite all efforts and apparent success in getting it cleaned up, it's now worse than it's ever been. Rats were seen down there too - DANGER OF WEIL'S DISEASE! It's been reported to the appropriate authorities as a matter of urgency and the keyholder at the Mining Museum has been advised so you won't get a key for a through trip for the moment.
Jenny Potts 5th January 2009

James Halls' Over Engine Mine (J.H.) - WARNING
The area around the top of Bitch Pitch in James Halls' Over Engine Mine (J.H.) has deteriorated significantly during February 2009. The angle iron and rock platform that used to aid progress to the Y-hang at the end has completely gone. Some of the rocks and the 6ft lengths of angle iron are sitting on the floor further back down the Cartgate. Reaching the first P-bolt of the traverse is more difficult than it used to be. Someone has installed a compression anchor (hanger currently in-situ) two or three metres back down the Cartgate to protect the move to the first P-bolt. This anchor has not been installed by DCA; use at your own risk. The wooden stemples that the angle iron and rocks sat on are still in place and can be used to make progress to the Y-hang at the end. Below these stemples is a fairly loose slope of wet mud and small rocks. Anything that falls down/off this slope will roll straight down the line of the ropes below. Care needed!

Work is being planned to return the pitch head to its previous state and stop the slope below deteriorating.
Jules Barrett 18th February 2009

More on the JH Problem
Three cavers on Jules Barrett's "inspection trip" of the head of Bitch Pitch exited after Jules and have reported the following about other areas of the mine: "We also noted two places where the cartgate itself has deteriorated - a false floor has 'sunk' soon after the entrance shaft, and a significant new hole has appeared further on in the floor exposing more of the flooded workings below. A reminder that the whole cartgate should be considered 'delicate', requiring careful caving! "
Jenny Potts 18th February 2009

Long Rake Mine, Youlgreave
Some cavers recently visited this mine and found it full of fumes, almost certainly from an engine working on the surface. Please note that this mine is part of a working site on private land and there is no agreed access while this is so. You are urged to ensure that all cavers are made aware of the situation.
Jenny Potts 29th March 2009

Winnats Head - Downstream Pitches
The downstream pitches in Winnats Head Cave are being equipped with eco anchors. This is the set of three 'down pitches' on the far side of the Sewer. This work will be finished soon but cavers should avoid the downstream pitches in Winnats Head Cave whilst the work is going on. Some old Spits have been removed and the eco anchor routes aren't yet complete. A message will be posted on here when the work is finished.

The 'up pitches' (i.e. the fixed rope immediately after the Sewer and the series of pitches leading to Wigwam Aven) are not affected.

Jules Barrett 28th May 2009

JH Is a No-Go Area
The top of JH Bitch Pitch is now collapsing rapidly and is unsafe. Efforts will be made to stabilise it by DCA but this is likely to take some considerable time and a LOT of engineering.

It really is a total no-go area as the floor of the passage leading to the pitch head is actually made up of deads stacked on rotting wooden stemples, which are now falling away so you can see through the gaps. Any rocks coming down from a collapse will be directed straight onto any ropes on the pitch - absolutely lethal.

For the time being, please stay away. We'll keep you informed of any progress.

Please would club secretaries make sure their members are aware of this.

Jenny Potts 8th July 2009

Winnats Head - Downstream Pitches
The re-equipping of the downstream pitches in Winnats Head Cave is now finished. The following equipment is required:

Pitch 1 Rope: 35m
Rigging: 6 eco anchors, 3 tapes, 1 bolt and hanger for 8mm Spit
Notes: Easy traverse to pitch-head. Descend past two deviations (second one from 8mm Spit) to rebelay and the floor.

Pitch 2 Rope: 30m
Rigging: 3 eco anchors, 1 tape
Notes: Easy traverse to pitch-head. Descend past a deviation to floor.

Pitch 3 Rope: 30m
Rigging: 4 eco anchors, 1 tape
Notes: Traverse to pitch-head. Descend past a deviation to floor.

Jules Barrett 21st September 2009

JH
JH has now been re-opened thanks to sterling work by DCA Projects Officer, Martyn Grayson, and his helpers. This has taken a huge effort and some considerable expense on material, for which DCA will be footing the bill.

The pitch head platform at the top of Bitch Pitch has been reconstructed completely and the rubble below stabilised, so that there is no longer a risk of rock falls taking out hanging ropes. The problems in the passage leading to the pitch head have been overcome by collapsing the unstable floor completely so that you no longer walk on it - in its place Martyn has created a traverse by bolting angle iron plates onto the passage walls. The expanding bolt, placed earlier this year to allow the last part of the route to the pitch head to be protected, is in a good position and will be replaced as soon as practicable by an Eco-anchor.

Thanks to all the volunteers concerned in the work.

Jenny Potts 6th October 2009

Serious Damage in Giants Hole
Daryl Godfrey reported on 6th. April that there had been serious and deliberate vandalism in Giants Hole - the affected area is the terminal chamber of Wet Inlets.  This is an area which is not particularly easy to access since it involves a climb and squeezes and so is probably beyond the scope of ‘punters’ with a head torch.

The vandals have apparently used a rock to break off metre-long sections of stal, which have smashed on hitting the floor.  Other formations from the same chamber have been snapped off and removed, leaving a scene of destruction in what was once a hidden gem.  Daryl comments that the chamber floor “… is a scene of calcite genocide …”.  Giants Hole is an SSSI, and so protected by law, and is also one of the caves being monitored by cavers on behalf of Natural England.  Some of the stal. in Giants has been dated and is being specifically monitored and NE are anxious to establish whether the damage affects any of these crucial areas.

We are appealing to all cavers to help us catch the culprits so we need to know, if possible, on what date the damage was done.  Dave Webb, DCA Conservation Officer, will be collating information so please contact Dave direct (or Daryl) if you have any information.

If you have visited that area of Giants recently and have seen the affected area undamaged, please could you contact Dave and/or Daryl to give them the date.  Equally, if you have seen the area after it was damaged, please also give us the date.  That will help us narrow it down.  We also need photographs taken of the intact chamber to establish exactly what has been broken or removed

Contact: Dave Webb:  Em. conservation-off@thedca.org.uk,  Tel. 0115-840-1109
or    Daryl Godfrey:  Em. daryl@acclimbatize.co.uk,  Tel.  01629-820268,  Mob. 07881-626317

Thanks for your help. 

Jenny Potts 8th April 2010

JH/Speedwell: Connection Choke Collapsing Report From: Brendan Sloan (SUSS).
Report Date: 24/04/2010.
Published: 25/04/2010.

The boulder choke at the bottom of the fixed ladders in JH, leading through to the boulder piles has seen significant movement. A large area of roof now looks very unstable, and there has been a lot of rock fall into the passage. The scaffold frame looks to have bent and shifted. The floor is now highly unstable, with a constant flow of small rocks with the water, and larger stuff moving if stood on. We cleared the passage below, but there was too much loose stuff for us to tackle today and it is still on the move.

UPDATE 25/04/2010:
Nigel Ball and Dave Shearsmith were at Boulder Piles today and witnessed a boulder approximately 0.5 cubic metre fall from the choke while they were below it in the main passage. They had not been through the choke so it must have been dislodged buy the JH stream which flows down through it. BEWARE!

As a precaution it is advised that you hold off from through trips from Peak until it can be sorted.

DCA is arranging for a warning notice to be put on JH and a warning should also be at the top of Titan.

Jenny Potts 27th April 2010

JH/Speedwell Connection Choke Collapse - UPDATE 2/5/2010

DCA Projects Officer, Martyn Grayson, has inspected the choke this weekend and reports that it appears to have stabilised a little now, though he will be looking at strengthening the scaffolding a.s.a.p. The problem is being caused by the water running through the choke gradually washing out the mine tailings which have "glued it together" so far. It is likely that the choke will continue to move in the future but will probably remain negotiable - however, IT NEEDS TREATING WITH EXTREME CARE AND RESPECT!

Please ensure that this information is circulated as widely as possible to club members.

Thanks for your help.

Jenny Potts 2nd May 2010

JH/Speewell connection - more problems

Report received 21 June from Ann Soulsby of TSG:

"It appears that the boulder choke between JH and Speedwell may have moved again. Lee Langdon and Christine Wilson reported that the void we used to climb down is now like a rubble slope. One of the scaffolding clips is bent and very close to the edge of the scaffolding pole and there is a boulder precariously perched with a void above it.

"Following this report Ralph Johnson and Adrian Pedley offered to have a quick look whilst replacing the bung ladder. They are not experts but confirmed the report from Lee & Christine. Ralph has kindly asked Len Kirkham if he would be willing to go and give his opinion. They are hoping to tag this onto a Speedwell trip to finish the bung ladder.

"I have advised the two groups we have booked in for through trips that we strongly advise against these but I have left it up to their own discretion."

Jenny Potts 24th June 2010

Access to Water Icicle New Extensions

Arrangements have now been made to enable access to the new extensions in Water Icicle Close Cavern.

Full details are given on the website of Orpheus Caving Club: www.orpheuscavingclub.org.uk

Jenny Potts 6th August 2010

Ban on access to Eldon Quarry

The farmer, Mr. Gregory, has banned ALL access to Eldon Quarry for EVERYONE.

Shortly before 21 August persons unknown (not necessarily cavers) cut off the padlock on the gate to the quarry and drove a vehicle or vehicles in. The farmer is understandably furious at the damage and, knowing that cavers have had an interest in the quarry in the past, he rang one of the DCA Officers to demand that a "DCA Notice" be put on the gate to keep cavers out.

The officer concerned bought and installed a new padlock for the farmer and put the notice on the gate.  Unfortunately, in the rush to sort things at the time, he forgot to advise other DCA officers of what he had done.

Be aware that the farmer is now keeping a watch on the quarry and will be looking to prosecute anyone he catches damaging his gates or locks. Many farmers are taking precautions against theft of stock, particularly sheep, at present and are therefore locking gates to prevent vehicular access to their land.

Please be aware also that Mr. Gregory farms the land round Eldon Hole, so infringement of his ban on access to Eldon Quarry could even affect access to Eldon Hole, which is currently on a very free and easy basis.

The DCA Access Officer will be visiting Mr. Gregory to try to re-negotiate access for cavers but this may take a little time. Please be patient and stay away for the time being while we attempt to sort things out.

Jenny Potts 28th August 2010

Clatterway Sough Access

We have received a message from the new owner of 2 Hollowbrook (formerly known as Hollowbrook cottage) in Bonsall, Mr. Damion Taylor, as follows:

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Clatterway sough exits into our garden and I understand that from time to time cavers may wish to use the sough to enter and exit the Clatterway mine system.

You might want to make your members/readers aware of the following:

We are happy to allow entry and exit to the sough by prior permission, ideally using the email address did666@sky.com.  The sough will now have a locked metal gate to prevent our small children from venturing inside - this will be installed and locked from 1st. August 2011.  In order to avoid a wasted trip, or even worse not being able to exit, it is essential that prior permission is sought so the gate can be unlocked.
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Jenny Potts 6th July 2011

Devonshire Cavern

Steve Pope reports 14 November:

I was leading a group of Scouts within Devonshire this weekend and noticed some loose rocks and cracks in the roof just below the Miners pillar area which I had not noticed before. It looks as if mineral hunters have been excavating the roof area here for Galena. There is a fresh crack running down the centre of the roof and on the right hand side as you descend there are some rocks which move if you hold onto them. Just beyond this area as a passageway joins one from the right a pack giving support to the pillar/roof has also been disturbed.

Nothing appears to be in any immediate risk of collapse unless there are further movements/falls of material. Leaders need to be aware that if they take groups below the miner's pillar care will need to be exercised to avoid further disturbance of the packed deads and if see signs of any fresh material in the passageway they should only proceed with caution.

Jenny Potts 14th November 2011

Odin Mine

I have just received the following message from the National Trust:

This week the team of people that carried out an inspection soon after the collapse last year returned to Odin to monitor any development.

An inspection of the collapse was undertaken and a photographic record made from above the collapse.  It was evident that no new major collapse had occurred since the original.  The condition of the collapse remains potentially dangerous, with the remaining infill in an unstable condition and therefore likely to significant further collapse.
 
In early summer a visit will be made to inspect the collapse from below and make an assessment.

The conclusion of the visit was that the temporary access restriction put in place by others in February last year remains entirely appropriate and should remain in place until further notice.
 
Please understand that the decision to restrict access has not been taken lightly, and that subject to the results of the monitoring it will be our long term intention to re-open the mine once it is safe to do so.


Jenny Potts 2nd February 2012


Last updated 5th February 2012